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Web 2 EU - Open Beer #3

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Web 2 EU - Open Beer #3

Time: March 1, 2010 from 6pm to 9pm
Location: Le Break de l'Abbaye, rue St Georges 2, 1050 Ixelles
City/Town: Brussels
Event Type: get, together, web2eu
Organized By: Cédric Puisney
Latest Activity: Mar 18, 2010

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Already the 3rd round of our get together IRL for EU freaks, civil servants, communicators, lobbyists, bloggers, tweeters & co!

Theme of the discussion:
- Open government challenges
- Open letter from the EC's internet editors and webmasters to President Barroso

Speakers: Tony L, Dick N, Phil W

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Comment by Helen Dunnett on March 4, 2010 at 21:41
Thanks Matthew and appreciate the real life example Cheers! Helen
Comment by Mathew Lowry on March 4, 2010 at 9:41
Really a shame I missed Monday ... If I'd been there, I'd have pointed out that the wave of emails and comments some seem to fear didn't happen to the Obama administration (see eGovernment2.0: is the US experience overrated?). As ReadWriteWeb puts it, the US results are disappointing.

I would expect even lower eParticipation rates in Europe, discounting Pyjama People activity, of course. In fact, in many cases EC online community managers may have the opposite problem - rather than drowning in feedback, they'll need to spend their time engaging elsewhere to get valuable feedback and participation.

The exception is when they create specialised Communities of Practice to support EC programmes, which INFSO has been doing since 2002. Here, there can be floods of participation - in the last one I set up (2006), for example, we had 8000 comments in the first month of defining an event's networking programme, and that month was August.

And that was absolutely no problem. As you point out, we didn't have to answer these contributions, because these CoPs are self-policing. I literally didn't have to lift a finger to manage that firehose of contributions - in fact, I went on holiday!

There must be many other examples. To be frank, I think a lot of the fears people have are exaggerated by simple ignorance.
Comment by Helen Dunnett on March 3, 2010 at 21:54
Cedric, thanks so much for organising this event. From a fabulous opening story by Tony & Dick which lead into a healthy debate spurred on by Mr P Weiss. I do believe that open government will come to the Commission. Of course not in the slick Obama way, but it in the usual awkward malformed way that the Commission does so well. I guess it will start quite by mistake on a seemingly insignificant project in one of the farest corners of the institution. I can imagine it being adopted quite naturally by its stakeholders without causing the mass hysteria and shouts of "impossible!" that are predicted. Let's see.

Several times during the discusion the comment came back that the Commission simply wouldn't be able to respond to all the emails/comments being submitted by everyone and his cat who wanted to add their two cents to draft policy and this would grind the process to a standstill. But I had understood that open policy making would be conducted via platforms like 'wikis' to help draft policy. Why would the Commission need to reply to every comment with some formal letter as they do today? Wikipedia doesn't... would really welcome views on this to understand the thinking and/or policy making better.
Comment by Benedictus NIEUWENHUIS on March 1, 2010 at 17:37
20 minutes to go....and it's Open Beer again!!!!
Comment by Piotr on March 1, 2010 at 9:37
Thanks for the quick answer!
Comment by Cédric Puisney on March 1, 2010 at 9:35
Hi Piotr! Yes, it is free and open. Just come and join us there!
Comment by Piotr on March 1, 2010 at 9:03
I just received the invitation... thanks a lot! Is the event open to everybody, is it free to attend? Do I have to bring a copy of the invitation email?
Comment by Mathew Lowry on February 28, 2010 at 22:15
I won't make it, unfortunately, but those interested in "grappling with social media could mean for the Brussels eco-system beyond the institutions" (as mentioned in Hugh's posterous) should take a look at the active discussions last year within what I guess you'd have to call the Bloggingportal Editors' bubble.

I added some of the links to the comments of Jean-Yves' post a couple of months ago.

Have fun, whatever you talk about,

Comment by Kathryn Sheridan on February 26, 2010 at 18:49
Dammit, I'm out of town on Monday. Have lots of fun and book another one soon!
Comment by Benedictus NIEUWENHUIS on February 20, 2010 at 21:49
I think the original idea was to take the Open Letter of the Commission webmasters as starting point and to get one of them to start the discussion.

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